| | vecours | May 7, 5:29pm | darken the edges?
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Sponsor |  rwpi | May 7, 5:36pm | i just went around with the dodging tool ( brightener) i worked about 14% different sizes in diferent areas. my upload doesn't show it off well. its a slight brightening......
yotza: i did some shadow punching and a little high lightening also with the dodging tool in your foliage....
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|  yotza | May 8, 12:43pm | | :))) well, I have done all those things on that picture, you just did the same thing again ... and I liked it more blackness :) it's nice photo, thank you! :) |
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Sponsor | | rwpi | May 8, 1:33pm | the image as originally presented seems a bit too dark to me. but thats just my taste.
sorry for demonstrating it with your image. granting anyone that privilege is NOT a requirement here. didn't mean to offend. i will restrict my self to verbal comments. |
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| | yotza | May 8, 3:29pm | no no no, I'm not offended! Not at all! It's o.k. you're displaying your opinion and taste ... you can keep doing that, it not problem with me... I only could be glad with that!
and, I'll put some more photos of mine here, I'm interested in opinion of all of you .. yet, I'm not professional photographer ... I'm just trying to do it the best of me :) |
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Sponsor | | rwpi | May 9, 5:46am | there was in fact two separate discussions going on here. one was in response to someone who sent me an email questioning the practice of altering some ones image with out permission. and our aesthetic discussion here. i should have separated the two clearly.
i respect your vision, love the image as is yet, still differ on the tonal range.
on the other issue. i didn't read an objection to image alteration in your response. still don't. i read your response as preferring your image as is. i don't know why the person chose not to express her opinion here in the group discussion. it is a valid point.
in response to that issue. i feel it should be said to all, that i have only done it for illustration purposes. i have received a few positive emails from folks here expressing how this discussion and one of the other discussions has helped them better understand the capabilities of the process. i assumed this included illustrative side by sides. any alterations are simply the view of the alterer. it doesn't mean it is a better one.
this is a multi level group with different levels of home software and know how. it seems to be a good technical practice in context of this discussion as long as folks are benefiting from it and it is handled respectful to the artist. i don't want to presume to make rules here but, i will ask permission to mess with an image in the future. as for me, permission is granted to anyone feels inclined to alter my posted images to make their point.
on a personal note. i will be the first to admit my processing skills are mediocre. and aesthetics can be and should be argued till the cows come home. and after that. don't know much about cows obviously. |
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Sponsor | | xyzzyplugh | May 9, 6:36am | 256, as to altering someone's image,, you didn't, you made a copy which you now own, and altered that, then you published it without permission, i also alter many images but if i know the source of the original, i contact the person, show the 'new' image and ask if ok to post it, not that the public internet isn't a free fror all copy area anyway, just to be polite and respect,
it is my opinion that original art is an oxymoron, we all copy images, and ideas, taking a photo, is copying an image, that's why it's called taking. :) |
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Sponsor | | rwpi | May 9, 6:57am | well put. doesn't get clearer than that. i have treated this practice loosely. and i apologize to any one who has taken offense. it is clearly a sticky issue even in this limited context. i will respectfully ask in the future.
let me assure any and all that it is not my presumption to own any uploaded image in any way, in the true spirit of ownership. |
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| | | vecours | May 9, 7:38am | "Imitation is the sincerest of flattery.
Charles Caleb Colton,"
"it is my opinion that original art is an oxymoron, we all copy images, and ideas, taking a photo, is copying an image, that's why it's called taking. :)" |
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Sponsor | | rwpi | May 9, 7:42am | | "i get it. i get it already...... roy wright". stop calling me a moron. i prefer idiot thank you. |
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